I can only convey how my Dad felt on this subject, as I have no other family members in the military. When my Dad was drafted in WWII he was very young (20 I think) and he was very scared to be going up against the nazi's. Despite his fear, he went to Italy to do what he could to help. In fighting the nazi's he felt he was doing his part to help the world. Who can even imagine what would have happened had there been no Allies to stop the nazi's?
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Happy Veterans Day! (America)
by freemindfade inpeople have varied and strong feelings about politics and wars, but you can't deny the courage a sacrifice of our veterans.
too often they do not get the honor they deserve.
in this country once they come home their sacrifice and heroism is too quickly forgotten.
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Birthday. 2 years old.
by punkofnice inyesterday was my granddaughters 2nd birthday.
they had a party for her.
i bought a gift which she loved.
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Love hearing stories like this. So glad you and your family had such a special day. Wishing your grand daughter a lifetime of happy b-days!
So stupid that the gb tells kids that it makes jah sad when kids have fun celebrating their b-days.
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Happy Veterans Day! (America)
by freemindfade inpeople have varied and strong feelings about politics and wars, but you can't deny the courage a sacrifice of our veterans.
too often they do not get the honor they deserve.
in this country once they come home their sacrifice and heroism is too quickly forgotten.
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Since my Dad was such a good skier he was assigned to the 10th Mountain Division when he was drafted in WWII. He spent time skiing in the Italian Alps. Although the conditions were still pretty tough and very cold, he was always grateful for his assignment. A big thank you to all the veterans! -
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How To Test a J.W.'s Loyalty/Stupidity
by The Searcher in"would you do absolutely anything which the governing body instructed you to do?
for example, sell your home and possessions, move in with another witness, and send all your money to the org?".
if 'no', they're showing that they will pick and choose which org directives they will follow.
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Not too long ago my husband entered the room I was in and announced "yes, I will drink the kool-aid" and then walked out. I was surprised obviously and I had no idea why he said it. Although the subject has come up before, we hadn't spoken of religion for weeks. He had been on the phone a lot that week with his siblings (the uber jw ones) so I assume the subject came up. Strange though, I didn't think jw's would ever talk about possibly receiving that direction from the gb, since it such a cult sign. His siblings are pushing really hard to get him back in. It's so sad cause he is miserable and doesn't see why. He's been basically inactive (only attended random meetings and memorial) for over 20 yrs and he was so much happier then. We had a normal life for many years. He claims now that he was never happy with what I "talked" him into doing. I beg to differ as I have pictures of him wearing a santa hat passing out gifts and he has a big smile on his face. He also used to love to decorate the outside of the house with lights, etc. -
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What is it like to have that one true friend?
by My Name is of No Consequence inwhat is it like to have that one true friend?
growing up in the org, i never really had friends.
i had many acquaintances, some of which were worldly.
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Can you be married, live in the same house and be lonely? Yes!
I agree. In my house it is for the same reason as yours. Once I told my spouse I had no interest in being a jw I was tattled on and thrown under the bus. It got ugly!
Do you have any non-jw family? Would there be any way you could re-connect with some of the friends you used to have? It may take awhile to develop the close friendship that you seek, however, it is worth the effort! I have a friend that I can confide anything in. I will always have her back and she will always have mine. The friendship is not conditional on the two of us agreeing on religion.
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One Year Later - A Thank You to Tony Morris.
by cappytan indear anthony morris, iii:.
i wanted to send you a note of "thanks" on this special day.. why is this day special, you may ask?
one year ago today, you, tony, woke me up to the fact that the governing body could not have jehovah's blessing or direction.. last year, on november 8th & 9th, 2014, the united states branch visit was broadcast to over 1,000,000 jehovah's witnesses across the country.. as i sat at the kingdom hall listening to the "historic occasion," i was ignoring certain doubts that had surfaced in the few months prior.
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I've read in the past that this was a wake-up call for many. I wonder if he has any idea how many have left in part due to what he said that day? Do you suppose he regrets it?
Congrats to you, Cappytan for exiting with your family. Hope you're loving your new life!!
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Retirement Planning for ex-JW's
by Simon inthis is something i think about a lot, possibly because i'm just getting older.
it seems that not only should i finally one day decide what i want to do with my life, but i should also be planning for retirement.. hands up everyone who feels their future has been royally screwed by the wts experience?.
if you were a good jw and followed the wts advice you could well be finding yourself facing middle or even old age without much or anything put aside in retirement savings.
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I agree, great thread and I appreciate the explanations and advice. I too because of age started thinking and planning for retirement several years ago. This is one of those difficult situations that UBM's can find themselves in. My hubby has no interest in planning for the future. He spends more than he makes and would be in the hole by hundreds of $'s every month if he was on his own. It is the way he was raised and is of course supported by the belief the big A is any day now, so why save anything?? He has told me many times how foolish I am for thinking this system will be here when we are old. So the retirement planning is up to me and can be a bit intimidating. I appreciate all advice on this topic.
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My Mother Died Two Weeks Ago
by Perry innone of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.
just found out this morning.
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Extreme emotions re today's watchtower
by Tornintwo ini was supposed to attend the meeting today, one of my once a month duties for the sake of my family and my fade.
i read the wt and i just can't stomach going.... what this wt does is again and again reiterate that only jws will survive the coming destruction and that they should be happy about this and raise ourselves erect...eg:.
we cannot expect that many people will suddenly convert to true christianity.
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Faithful Witness 41 minutes ago
Closer to Fine: Most churches that I have visited, seem to be encouraging their audience to do as you described... often in the form of a monetary donation.
Yes, this is true and it's been proven that unfortunately many abuse that trust and steal the funds for their own benefit.
Some are still using the funds honestly. A co-worker of mine belongs to a very small church and their donations go towards food for the homeless. They have volunteers that cook and feed close to a hundred homeless people every weekend. The donations pay for all of the food year round. Jw's believe these people still deserve to die despite their charitable works just because they aren't jw's.
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Extreme emotions re today's watchtower
by Tornintwo ini was supposed to attend the meeting today, one of my once a month duties for the sake of my family and my fade.
i read the wt and i just can't stomach going.... what this wt does is again and again reiterate that only jws will survive the coming destruction and that they should be happy about this and raise ourselves erect...eg:.
we cannot expect that many people will suddenly convert to true christianity.
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I was raised catholic, which I know makes me even more deserving of a horrible death at the big A according to the jw's. I stopped going to church as soon as my parents didn't require me to go. I am in no way defending them as there are lots of problems in the rc church and I haven't attended one in over 20 years, however, I will say this much. Growing up I don't ever remember hearing anything on sundays regarding being excited and looking forward to God destroying anyone. The message was almost always more along the lines of 'how can we be better followers of Christ's example, how can we help our fellow man more, take care of the elderly, etc....'
My guess is that most other religions try to deliver the same message of hope and love for God, Christ, and their fellow man on sundays. They don't stand up and say 'I can't wait until we are proven right and everyone else is dead.'